What made you Sad today?

Life on the road.

Batoto is kill. Yesterday was the last day, the servers will now slowly die as the site slows till it stops "breathing". If it's not fully dead by the 25th, Grumpy(owner) will be pulling the plug and moving the forums to vatoto.com

I came here to say I wrote a pretty sad letter to a friend... But that's a contender now.

Well Mangadex.com is a thing now... so that's kind of a somewhat replacement.

Welp that's absolutely terrifying

I have just undone some friendships with some people.
No tragic reason or argument, i just... had... enough with them? I don't know how to explain, but i'm not compelled to talk to these people anymore, conversation with them just feel still.
Well, they were actually all part of that little group that i called friends. I feel lonely...

Sometimes we have to make those decisions. It's tough but when a relationship starts to dull or sour it's best to leave it instead of letting it burn out and destroying the good it had, if it can't be salvaged or reignited. It's an empty feeling for awhile but it's important to look for that spark that you were missing. Take on an activity that is something special to you. Card games, collections, extreme sports, hiking, star gazing, and slowly meet and acquaint yourself with those who share such interests. Not friends per se but comfortable acquaintances someone you can joke with that can eventually become a friend. It's only as lonely as we ourselves make it. Also here to talk I still get notifications via email for here .

Sometimes its not worth it. It'll get better like Cerb said you'll have time to do things more important to you than just struggling to keep those people around. I've had people like that, I understand.

oh no e.t.!!!!!

It has been four years since the creation of this thread.
I had originally 3 friends: Crow, Lee and Cross.
The first post was about a fight i had with Lee, that was ONE stupid fight, and we never talked to each other again. It was kind of a heated discussion, about how Lee should give more emphasis on Story rather than judging an anime only by its animation. I WAS narrow-minded back then, and maybe today that characteristic persists (On a lesser state though.).

Next: It was Crow, crow was Dating Lee, and Lee dated Cross before (But they got into a fight, i positioned myself to aid cross, and that culminated in the fight a had with Lee.). Well, Crow was having problems with Lee, i told him that if he did X thing, it would backfire against him, he did it anyway, and i only said "I warned you, I warned you!". My arrogance and bluntness backfired, making me sequentially lose another friend.
Cross got into a fight with me, in the name of Lee and Crow, and we thought that we would not speak to each other again.
Law was the most recent one, someone i met at random when we were mourning for the loss of a RPG server called RPG2IC.
I thought that we would become friends but... that was not actually what happened... it just felt blank and tasteless, for the best before frustration could build up, we decided that we wouldn't talk to each other again.
2 years ago, me and cross met again on another RPG server, we made up and we believed that we would be friends again, it didn't happen, we had a discussion, but it wasn't heated, there was no animosity or stuff like that, so this friendship ended in a rather monotonous way, and there goes another friend...
The RPG2IC friends, lost 'em all, and then there were none.
Well, i have only one friend now, it's actually someone i know IRL.

This time, it was strange, there was a lot of stuff building up for this to happen...
In the end, we both gave up on one another. AND THIS is the sad stuff.
But i wonder... is my definition of "Friend" wrong? Am i expecting too much from people?
My definition of "Friend" is someone that we both know that we can talk frankly and rudely to each other, were we can go all out on sincerity. If we fight, we still go all out, not backing down, because we trust each other long enough to know that after this we'll still be friends. We can be honest to each other, help one another when necessity rises, somewhat like brothers.

AND MOSTLY, TO ALL THOSE WHO CONTRIBUTED WITH THIS THREAD, AND, TO CERBERUSPAW AND STALWART AS THE MOUNT, THANK YOU, I needed that.

This thread was created back in 2014, it has been some time, uh?

Its been so long and i still can't stop coming to this site. But i tend to go to a lot of dead sites and projects i was a part of frequently.

Not dead as long as we're here tho
We'll keep the old girl goin long as we can WITH OUR TERRIFYING NECROTIC POWERS D:<

seeing everyone attack sieg and kera made me sad today. maybe the expenses look weird, maybe 2 humans arent fudging perfect. woo. these people set out to recreate a world for all of us to enjoy... do you think they enjoy the hours days months years of working on this? this coding that has passed hands multiple times from helper to helper slowly becoming a mess that they have to work with? it only got harder and harder on them and they didnt get paid for it... they only wanted to do good for the whole community. if they took a bit of 21k for themselves, i dont think thats so bad.... when someone does a job, they get paid for it.... so what if they paid themselves some minimal amount out of the funding for their years of work? fudging nuts if you think im gonna ask for a refund and call them shady. they tried. sieg still WANTS to try, but people around here would rather give in to their anger and just fudging yell like their opinions matter at all. this site could be taken down if they didnt want to deal with the people. this only still exists as proof that they cared. that they still care enough to let this exist. theyre good people and if they ever try again, ill throw money at them AGAIN.
in short: what made me sad today is finding out people i liked are fudging idiots who feel the need to kick someone when theyre down.

oh cute the forum autocorrects banned words to things like fudging ahahahah

I can say that I put up a fair share of money, It's been awhile but somewhere around $700 in donations from the start to the indiegogo campaign + a small stint where I just sent the money to keep servers up. It's nothing I ever really truly expected back. It was the spirit of it all and I just enjoyed being a part of a community for once even trying to helm a guild, something prior to here I would've never even considered. It was good for me and I take it as some of the best personal development and growth as a person I can ever have. It stung a bit watching it unfold as well but I understood everyone had their frustrations. I still wish Sieg, Kera, and Aryth would show back up and chat. Don't even have to talk about the world just seeing them still involved in the forum means not everything was lost.

Since we're gonna bring up the topic, I guess I'll say my piece on the subject.

Like cerb, I put up a lot of money into the project ($2000). And beyond fiscally, I did make some attempts to help find people that could do the kind of coding that the project needed to volunteer. As such, I think it's fair to say I was very invested in the project. Now, when the red names stopped showing up as frequently, and updates stopped coming out, not to mention donations closed, I had a pretty good idea that things with the project were taking a turn for the worse. But I didn't say anything because, while knowing things weren't going as well as we all hoped they would, I held on the chance that things could turn around. And because I was enjoying hanging out with guys like flame, chaos, and cerb.

Now, to get this thread back on track, what's sad for me is the people that don't come around anymore. Silaan, laurayne, all the people that seemed to either be cut from the same cloth of madness as me or at least had a matching pattern. And even though I think I only ever talked with Sieg (sometimes jokingly) about the project, I never thought he was a bad guy. I figured the reason nothing was being said was because of real life, that nothing had changed because nothing could. And while I understand frustrations that were unleashed by some people because of that lack of communication, I had some myself, it also makes me a bit sad that people actually thought that money for the project was taken and run away with. I can't claim I know where all the money went after donations went down, but I don't think that this domain is free and it's been running for years since money stopped coming in.

But I guess more than anything, I'm sad with recent events. With everything that happened that tells me that chances of people coming back, of seeing the full game, of extorting people with my gondola, dodging flame's fireballs on maps, or having Lunatic Fringe play as we walked into the arena are now probably closer to 0 than 10 percent.

I don't think I'm owed a refund, and I won't ask for one, nor would I ask to have back the time I spent here. I do wish however things turned out differently.